[Bug 1184077] [NEW] kde-l10n-zhcn depends on ibus-pinyin

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Release:
Kubuntu 13.04/KDE 4.10.3

Package:
 kde-l10n-zhcn Version 4.10.3-0ubuntu1~ubuntu13.04~ppa1

What I wanted to do:
Uninstall package ibus (IME), ibus-pinyin, ibus-pinyin-db-open-database, pinyin-database, python-ibus, libibus-1.0.0

What instead happened:
4.10.3-0ubuntu1~ubuntu13.04~ppa1 depends on package ibus-pinyin. Uninstalling ibus doesn't work, only if uninstalling kde-l10n-zhcn as well as languagepack-kde-zh-hans.

Does that make sense? I use fcitx and there are more IME around. So I
don't need ibus as far as I understand. Could that be changed?

Thank you!


///// Also affect latest version 14.04 Kubuntu LTS

** Affects: kde-l10n-zhcn (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided
Status: Confirmed

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** Tags added: kubuntu trusty xenial yakkety
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[Alberto Salvia Novella]

** Changed in: kde-l10n-zhcn (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided => Medium

** Also affects: hundredpapercuts
Importance: Undecided
Status: New

** Changed in: hundredpapercuts
Status: New => Confirmed

** Changed in: hundredpapercuts
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[Boyuan Yang]

I have heard of some rumors that the ibus-pinyin package is deprecated
and may soon be removed from repository (both in debian and ubuntu).
This package may fail if still declares the dependency to ibus-pinyin.

As a result, please fix this problem ASAP to avoid further problems.
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[Boyuan Yang]

Now it is Dec. 2016 and I would again remind everyone that this is still
a bug that exists from 2013 to 2017.

This has long been a blocking issue. Every Chinese Kubuntu user has to
bear the whole ibus inside the system which is totally useless and would
interfere with any other input method. I'm sure that lots of users have
given up using Kubuntu due to this annoying issue. If it does not get
fixed, more will.
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[SnDream]

It is June 2018 now, and the problem is still unsolved.
It's really annoying.
The problem is, for example, the DVORAK keyboard you use, but when you install kde-l10n-enus (if exist), the keyboard layout must be QWERTY.

To fix the bug, just remove

kubuntu:AdditionalDepends=ibus-pinyin

in substvars. It's really hard?
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[Jeremy Bicha]

Please see https://salsa.debian.org/input-method-team/ibus-
pinyin/blob/master/debian/NEWS

** Changed in: kde-l10n-zhcn (Ubuntu)
Importance: Medium => High
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[webmarwell]

I wonder if it is an easy change to make kde-l10n-zhcn not depending on
ibus as preset.

The problem might be if somebody installs a system based on kde-l10n-
zhcn and there is no preset IME then there is no input possible in
Chinese but only in English. Many Chinese people don't speak English, at
least for them it would be difficult to use the fresh installed system,
before add an IME.

I am not aware of a method to make kde-l10n-zhcn dependend on a
chooseable IME, where one method is obligatory and at least all IME with
a bigger userbase would be available. So the discussion at the moment
could only be if that should be changed to another IME, because more
people are using it or because one is better than another.

However this could be integrated in system installers of course, like
choosing the language or keyboard layout and should be if the userbase
of Chinese speaking Linux users is big enough to find developers who
would do this quite big task, as this would have to be added to quite a
lot of distributions than.

I think this is the reason this "bug" isn't changed. In my Manjaro
installation kde-l10n-zhcn installs only libibus as dependency, I can't
uninstall it. I use fcitx, so I have an unused software of ~48 MiB - not
such a big problem today. Even if I would prefer an integration in
system installers.
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