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On 2008-09-10T20:41:21+00:00 Eduardo Durany Fernández wrote:
Version: (using KDE 4.1.1)
Installed from: Unspecified
Stop gnome and kde 4 autostart mess
Case one:
Steps to reproduce:
1) Mark an entry in gnome-session to not autostart
2) Login in kde4
Expected behavior:
Kde4 does not autostart that app
Current behavior:
Kde4 autostarts the app
Case two:
Steps to reproduce:
1) Mark an entry in kde to not autostart
2) Login in gnome
Expected behavior:
Gnome shows the app in gnome-session and does not autostart it
Current behavior:
Gnome does not show the app in gnome-session
I would like to list every autostart entries in gnome and kde. Mark them
to autostart only in gnome, only in kde or in both.
Same bug in gnome:
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=551700
Related bugs:
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=548339
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=163582
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On 2008-09-10T23:41:29+00:00 Adamw-c wrote:
Additional comments: KDE has a 'private' autostart directory,
~/.kde/Autostart . GNOME does not.
The OnlyShowIn keyword can be used; in the context of autostart it will
make the app only start in a particular DE. OnlyShowIn=KDE will make it
only autostart in KDE, OnlyShowIn=GNOME will make it only autostart in
GNOME.
So all the bits are there for both KDE and GNOME to behave sensibly by
default and to present a simple interface to configure this.
IMHO, by default, when you set an app to autostart in either KDE or
GNOME, it should be set to *only* autostart in that environment. I think
that's the behavior most users expect.
Extra links to reports of this issue:
http://forum.mandriva.com/viewtopic.php?p=548286
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/255342
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On 2008-09-11T17:40:25+00:00 Eduardo Durany Fernández wrote:
When Gnome disables an autostart entry, it adds the flag "X-GNOME-
Autostart-enabled=false". Kde does not understand this flag.
When Kde disables an autostart entry, it adds the flag "Hidden=true".
The problem is that Gnome uses this flag to mark autostart entries
deleted. From gnome-sessions source:
/* Two possible cases:
* a) We want to remove a system wide startup desktop file.
* We can't do that, so we will create a user desktop file
* with the hidden flag set.
* b) We want to remove a startup desktop file that is both
* system and user. So we have to mark it as hidden.
*/
I think Gnome and Kde hackers need to reach agreement here.
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On 2008-09-11T17:45:18+00:00 Adamw-c wrote:
If what I wrote above is true - "OnlyShowIn=KDE will make it only
autostart in KDE, OnlyShowIn=GNOME will make it only autostart in GNOME"
- then the obvious solution is to use the OnlyShowIn key, which is a
standard one, not an extension like X-GNOME-Autostart-enabled.
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On 2008-09-11T18:42:43+00:00 Eduardo Durany Fernández wrote:
Yes, but if you put "OnlyShowIn=kde" gnome will not list that entry.
I would like to list every autostart entries in Gnome and Kde and to enable, disable or delete them. But maybe people would like another thing.
I think "Hidden" should be used only to deleted entries so we need
another flag such as "Autostart-enable" to enable/disable them.
A similar problem occurs with menu entries. With Gnome i can enable or
disable menu entries without delete them. I think Gnome uses "NoDisplay"
flag to do this. Kde can not do this
(http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93689).
What about an "Enable" flag to resolve both cases?
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On 2008-09-12T01:49:38+00:00 volapyk wrote:
I'm using OnlyShowIn=GNOME atm in Mandriva to solve this problem. It
seems to be working perfectly.
I support using the OnlyShowIn key, like Adam suggests. I don't need to
have KDE autostart entries listed in Gnome. I'm not really sure I want
to either.
Any solution is fine with me though. As long as it's simple.
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On 2008-09-12T02:15:02+00:00 Eduardo Durany Fernández wrote:
Well, after some research...
GNOME (gnome-session):
Show:
It shows autostart entries in /etc/xdg/autostart and in $HOME/.config/autostart.
It does not show entries with "Hidden=true", "NotShowIn=gnome" or "OnlyShowIn=kde".
Enable/Disable (user):
It sets "X-GNOME-Autostart-enabled" flag true or false.
Enable/Disable (system):
It creates a user desktop file with "X-GNOME-Autostart-enabled" flag.
Delete (user):
It deletes the desktop file.
Delete (system):
It creates a user desktop file with "Hidden=true".
KDE (systemsettings):
Show:
It only shows autostart entries in $HOME/.config/autostart.
It shows entries with "Hidden=true" or "OnlyShowIn=gnome" (but it does not exec them).
Enable/Disable (user):
It sets "Hidden" flag true or false.
Delete (user):
It deletes the desktop file.
I like gnome-sessions behavior, but obviously "X-GNOME-Autostart-enabled" flag should be standardized.
This is a very annoying bug and i am sure every people would like to see similar behavior in both programs. I can't do much more with this. Thanks for reading.
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On 2008-09-12T02:21:36+00:00 Adamw-c wrote:
Great info, Eduardo. I'll duplicate it in the GNOME bug, if you don't
mind.
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On 2010-09-28T17:32:06+00:00 Cfeck wrote:
*** Bug 252663 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
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On 2018-11-05T03:12:28+00:00 Andrew-crouthamel wrote:
Dear Bug Submitter,
This bug has been stagnant for a long time. Could you help us out and
re-test if the bug is valid in the latest version? I am setting the
status to NEEDSINFO pending your response, please change the Status back
to REPORTED when you respond.
Thank you for helping us make KDE software even better for everyone!
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** Changed in: kde-baseapps
Status: New => Incomplete
** Bug watch added: KDE Bug Tracking System #93689
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93689
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