[Bug 191475] Re: [hardy] media tab in file management preferences missing applications

[Richard Hammersley]

** Also affects: amarok (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided
Status: New

[zombiepig]

To fix this problem:

the mimetype= line in /usr/share/applications/brasero.desktop is wrong,
it should read

MimeType=application/x-cd-image;application/x-cdrdao-
toc;application/x-toc;application/x-cue;application/x-brasero;x-content
/blank-cd;x-content/blank-dvd;x-content/blank-bd;x-content/blank-hddvd;

currently, one of the ;'s is a :

Then a quick

sudo update-desktop-database
sudo update-mime-database /usr/share/mime

will add brasero to the blank media options.

[Matthew Gregg]

How does a user override applications presented in the tab? For example
I need to run f-spot with a -i and a -b switch.

[James Westby]

Hi,

The f-spot fix caused bug 21186, so I am reopening to
change the solution and use the --import approach that
was chosen.

Thanks,

James


** Changed in: f-spot (Ubuntu)
Assignee: Michael Vogt (mvo) => James Westby (james-w)
Status: Fix Released => In Progress

[James Westby]

Hi,

Attached is my debdiff to try and solve this issue for f-spot.

I made use of the existing f-spot-import script that is installed.

Thanks,

James

** Attachment added: "fspot_0.4.2-0ubuntu3.diff"
http://launchpadlibrarian.net/12738782/fspot_0.4.2-0ubuntu3.diff

[James Westby]

Hi,

I should explain why I created just a .desktop file rather than a .desktop.in.in.
I though being this close to the release it would be better to just get a
fix in, as I doubt translators would have much time to translate
any new strings here. As the .desktop isn't used for display (though
I think the name may be used in nautilus' content bar) I don't think
it matters too much.

Thanks,

James

[Launchpad Bug Tracker]

This bug was fixed in the package f-spot - 0.4.2-1ubuntu1

---------------
f-spot (0.4.2-1ubuntu1) hardy; urgency=low

* Sync on Debian
* debian/control.in:
- don't use beagle
- updated maintainer information
* debian/patches/importer_targetdir_selector.dpatch:
- Add a target directory selector to the camera import dialog, so that
people can continue to use their customized directory layout.

[ James Westby ]
* Change the fix from 0.4.1-4ubuntu4 to use a separate
f-spot-import.desktop, as f-spot.desktop will not start
f-spot if you pass it a directory. This happens when you
use the context bar in nautilus to open f-spot from e.g.
a CF card full of photos. There is already an f-spot
command provided in the path. To use that we will create
a new .desktop that is associated with those mimetypes
and leave the normal f-spot.desktop to provide the menu
item. (LP: #191475)

-- Sebastien Bacher <seb128 at canonical.com> Wed, 26 Mar 2008 09:43:45
+0100

** Changed in: f-spot (Ubuntu)
Status: In Progress => Fix Released

[Sebastien Bacher]

no other upload waiting for sponsoring, unsubscribing the sponsors

[Harald Sitter]

** Changed in: amarok (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided => Low
Assignee: (unassigned) => Harald Sitter (apachelogger)
Status: New => Confirmed

[Daniel Hahler]

** Description changed:

Binary package hint: nautilus

Under system->preferences->file management, the "media" tab does not
detect a lot of the installed applications.

For instance, on a standard hardy alpha 4 install, both Music Player and Photos are disabled, with the text "No applications installed", despite Rhythmbox and F-spot being installed on the system.
Additionally, under the "other media" section, it's not possible to select brasero to be the default for "blank cd disc".

This tab seems to duplicate most of the functionality from "Removable
Drives and Media", and the settings in it don't match up with what's set
in the removable drives and media app. I think it should probably be
hidden in the standard hardy install to prevent confusion.
+
+ For reference, here's the list of mime types nautilus uses:
+ "media_audio_cdda_combobox", "x-content/audio-cdda",
+ "media_video_dvd_combobox", "x-content/video-dvd",
+ "media_music_player_combobox", "x-content/audio-player",
+ "media_dcf_combobox", "x-content/image-dcf",
+ "media_software_combobox", "x-content/software",

[Marc Baas]

Ok, I'd like to confirm this problem as well.

I'm having this problem with the VLC player. I want to set it as my
default DVD player, but it is not listed in the drop down list. So at
this point I cannot have VLC be my default player upon insertion of a
movie DVD.

[Daniel Hahler]

** Also affects: vlc (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided
Status: New

[Daniel Hahler]

The patch for amarok has been added to bug 103227:
* debian/patches/kubuntu_09_audio_mimetypes.diff:
- Add x-content/audio-player mimetype (LP: #191475)
I've not added x-content/audio-cdda, because that does not work
reliable

[Estel]

yes, also need VLC as default..

[Daniel Hahler]

** Changed in: vlc (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided => Wishlist
Status: New => Triaged

[Daniel Hahler]

The patch has been removed for amarok: for reasoning, see
https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amarok/+bug/103227/comments/10

[reassuringlyoffensive]

I can tell from what I've read that this isn't a Nautilus bug as such,
but why not have the ability to choose an application manually? Or use a
special command? I want to be able to use this command for playing DVDs
in Hardy:

vlc --vout-filter deinterlace --deinterlace-mode blend --volume 512
--fullscreen %m

It works great in Gutsy and I want to do it in Hardy without having to
hack at things. I want to help others use the above command and keep it
as simple as possible for them.

Thanks for reading,

Nathan

[Payteer]

Hello,
I agree with Nathan, I believed Ubuntu/linux was all about user control and not been like MS and taking that control away from us. Gutsy was good in allowing this tinkering to happen, and I am a bit worried that it is now gone in Hardy. I have also seen this in other areas also.
Thanks,
Peter

[Sebastien Bacher]

The change is not something which has been made to remove user choices,
there is just a lot of code which has been rewritten, everybody has lot
to do and nobody worked on that yet, you are welcome to give a hand and
send a patch for that feature though

[reassuringlyoffensive]

Sebastien,

Thanks for the clarification. I would love to help add the feature, but
I have no experience in writing code (only left Windows behind a year
ago). I can see this kind of feature will be added at some point and I
respect the fact that the devs have much work to do. I also respect the
fact that it's not an urgent matter.

Thanks again,

Nathan

[reassuringlyoffensive]

Possible workaround:

I've modified my instructions for Hardy users by taking some advice given on Launchpad. I'm not gonna add it to my how-to until I know how well it works.
Tell me if this works for you:

Copy and paste this into the Terminal:

sudo cp /usr/share/applications/vlc.desktop
~/.local/share/applications/vlc.desktop

Go to your home folder, then click on "View" in the file browser
(Nautilus) and select the "Show Hidden Files" option. Now, find the
folder ".local" in your home folder, open it and then open the folders
"share" and "applications". Now, find and right-click on "vlc.desktop"
and navigave to Properties>Launcher>Command. Change the command to:

vlc --vout-filter deinterlace --deinterlace-mode blend --volume 512
--fullscreen %m

Now, navigate to Edit>Preferences>Media>DVD Video and select VLC.

Delete "--fullscreen" if you have problems with it launching in
fullscreen,

Nathan

[Pedro Villavicencio]

** Changed in: brasero (Ubuntu)
Assignee: (unassigned) => Ubuntu Desktop Bugs (desktop-bugs)
Status: New => Confirmed

[Marc Baas]

As much as I appreciate reassuringlyoffensive's attempts to find a
proper workaround (you know me from the forums as "kivech"), doesn't it
make more sense to just add the VLC player to the list of possible DVD
players in Nautilus?

We are in RC already and this discussion has been going on for over a
month now. As much as I understand your pressure and how busy you guys
are (obviously at this stage of a release), it would save a lot of
people a lot of hassle if this could be put in before it becomes the
"official release".

[reassuringlyoffensive]

Kivech,

VLC wouldn't autoplay with the current launch command even if it was added to the list, so we just need to wait for a return of the ability to launch by command string.

Please ignore the workaround I posted above, as the per-user method is a little bit tricky compared with the following system-wide approach:

First of all, if you followed my other crappy method, open the Terminal and delete that file in ~/.local/share/applications, as it's not needed with the system-wide approach;

rm ~/.local/share/applications/vlc.desktop

Keep the Terminal open and copy and paste this command into it:
gksudo gedit /etc/gnome/defaults.list

Change the line "x-content/video-dvd=totem.desktop" to "x-content/video-dvd=vlc.desktop". Close and save.

Note: You need to repeat the following steps each time VLC is updated.

Next, edit the following two files by pressing alt+f2, typing your password and then by navigating to both /usr/share/applications/vlc.desktop and /usr/share/app-install/desktop/vlc.desktop. Right-click on them and select "Properties" in the context menu, then replace the "exec=vlc %U" launch command of both files to:

exec=vlc --vout-filter deinterlace --deinterlace-mode blend --volume 512 %m

Close and save both files. Finally, navigate to Nautilus>Edit>Preferences>Media>DVD Video, select VLC and then reboot or logout before you insert a DVD.

Nathan

[reassuringlyoffensive]

Just done some testing today and come up with a working per-user method,
which I recommend now rather than my previous efforts. Sorry about the
confusion, the tests could have been better,

After following these instructions, you will have two alternate entries
in your context menu "Open with" list and the file properties "Open
with" list, so that you can open VLC with the standard command.

To change the default DVD player in Hardy to VLC, open the Terminal and
copy and paste this command into it:

gksudo gedit /etc/gnome/defaults.list

Press "ctrl+f" and search for "x-content/video", then change the totem.desktop" entries to vlc.desktop". Close and save.

Next, right-click on "Applications" in the top panel and select "Edit Menus" to open the default menu editor. Navage down to "Sound & Video" in the left pane, select it, then right-click on "VLC media player" in the right pane, select "Properties" and change the launch command from "wxvlc %F" to:

vlc --vout-filter deinterlace --deinterlace-mode blend --volume 512 --fullscreen %m

Close the VLC properties dialog and exit the menu editor. Finally, navigate to Places>Home>Edit>Preferences>Media>DVD Video and select VLC.

Nathan

[Andrew Starr-Bochicchio]

Exaile is not currently registering with Nautilus as an option to play
inserted CDs or as an option to open when a media player is connected.

** Also affects: exaile (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided
Status: New

** Changed in: exaile (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided => Wishlist

[Andrew Starr-Bochicchio]

A complete (I believe) of the new content types that can be registered:

x-content/blank-cd
x-content/blank-dvd
x-content/blank-bd
x-content/blank-hddvd
x-content/video-dvd
x-content/video-vcd
x-content/video-svcd
x-content/video-blueray
x-content/video-hddvd
x-content/audio-cdda
x-content/audio-dvd
x-content/audio-player
x-content/image-dcf
x-content/image-picturecd

Also a question, is fixing this issue for an application something that
could get a SRU for Hardy or is this just something that will have to
wait for Intrepid?

[Andrew Starr-Bochicchio]

This has been fixed in brasero

brasero (0.7.1-3) unstable; urgency=low

* DEB_DESTDIR := instead of =.
* New patch, 007-fix-desktop-file-mime-typo, fixes typo in desktop file (":"
instead of ";"); Launchpad #200024; closes: #464772.


** Changed in: brasero (Ubuntu)
Status: Confirmed => Fix Released

[Sebastien Bacher]

such changes are fine for hardy-updates uploads

[Miika Laaksonen]

** Also affects: gthumb (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided
Status: New

[Bug Watch Updater]

** Changed in: f-spot
Status: New => Fix Released

[zcat]

OK, nathan's suggestion was fairly easy. But could somebody PLEASE
PLEASE write something (A dialog, under removable drives and media where
it used to be, preferably) that lets ordinary users change the default
media player without having to manually edit mime types and .desktop
files FFS.

[Sebastien Bacher]

there is already bug #227162 about letting users use a random command

[Philippe Piquer]

I also had to dig deep into Google to find a correct answer (at least one that work) for VLC.
So resolving this important for Mr Everybody.

http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Hardy#How_to_make_VLC_open_when_you_insert_a_DVD

[zcat]

I'm not sure how different packages identify themselves as being a media
player; perhaps this bug should be filed against the VLC package for not
registering itself somwhere?

I still want an option at the bottom of the list "Run this command" so I can
have some completely different program start, such as k9copy..

And I still want the menu to be duplicated under System > Preferences >
Removable Drives and Media" where it used to be. I still strongly believe
that's the most 'intuitive' place people will look for it. And even if it
wasn't, I also think that it's not a good idea for Ubuntu to make such
confusing changes to the interface just when we're starting to get
'non-geeks' learning to use the OS.

Post by Philippe Piquer
I also had to dig deep into Google to find a correct answer (at least one
that work) for VLC.
So resolving this important for Mr Everybody.
http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Hardy#How_to_make_VLC_open_when_you_insert_a_DVD
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[Brad Johnson]

This one I got working already, but thanks. Wish I could get amarok to open
when I connect my ipod.

On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 1:54 PM, Philippe Piquer <kubuntu.be at gmail.com>

Post by Philippe Piquer
I also had to dig deep into Google to find a correct answer (at least one
that work) for VLC.
So resolving this important for Mr Everybody.
http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Hardy#How_to_make_VLC_open_when_you_insert_a_DVD
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Status in Personal photo management for the GNOME desktop: Fix Released
Status in "amarok" source package in Ubuntu: Confirmed
Status in "brasero" source package in Ubuntu: Fix Released
Status in "exaile" source package in Ubuntu: New
Status in "f-spot" source package in Ubuntu: Fix Released
Status in "gthumb" source package in Ubuntu: New
Status in "rhythmbox" source package in Ubuntu: Fix Released
Status in "vlc" source package in Ubuntu: Triaged
Binary package hint: nautilus
Under system->preferences->file management, the "media" tab does not detect
a lot of the installed applications.
For instance, on a standard hardy alpha 4 install, both Music Player and
Photos are disabled, with the text "No applications installed", despite
Rhythmbox and F-spot being installed on the system.
Additionally, under the "other media" section, it's not possible to select
brasero to be the default for "blank cd disc".
This tab seems to duplicate most of the functionality from "Removable
Drives and Media", and the settings in it don't match up with what's set in
the removable drives and media app. I think it should probably be hidden in
the standard hardy install to prevent confusion.
"media_audio_cdda_combobox", "x-content/audio-cdda",
"media_video_dvd_combobox", "x-content/video-dvd",
"media_music_player_combobox", "x-content/audio-player",
"media_dcf_combobox", "x-content/image-dcf",
"media_software_combobox", "x-content/software",

[Olivier Samyn]

Same problem with gthumb.

Latest svn revision added the following mime types to the gthumb.desktop file:
x-content/image-dcf
x-content/image-picturecd

[Jens Askengren]

Could Eye Of Gnome be added as an alternative to F-Spot for media disks?

[Harald Sitter]

** Changed in: amarok (Ubuntu)
Assignee: Harald Sitter (apachelogger) => (unassigned)

[Bryan Quigley]

fixed in intrepid

** Changed in: gthumb (Ubuntu)
Status: New => Fix Released

[Bryan Quigley]

vlc - fixed in intrepid

** Changed in: vlc (Ubuntu)
Status: Triaged => Fix Released

[Launchpad Bug Tracker]

** Branch linked: lp:ubuntu/rhythmbox

[Launchpad Bug Tracker]

** Branch linked: lp:ubuntu/f-spot

[Mackenzie Morgan]

Based on http://standards.freedesktop.org/shared-mime-info-spec/shared-
mime-info-spec-latest.html it appears x-content is now part of the
standard, so I'm going to add x-content/audio-cdda and x-content/audio-
player to amarok.desktop file.

[Launchpad Bug Tracker]

** Branch linked: lp:~kubuntu-members/amarok/ubuntu

[Harald Sitter]

** Changed in: amarok (Ubuntu)
Status: Confirmed => Fix Released

[Launchpad Bug Tracker]

** Branch linked: lp:ubuntu/amarok

[Bug Watch Updater]

** Changed in: f-spot
Importance: Unknown => Medium

[Thomas Hotz]

** Changed in: exaile (Ubuntu)
Status: New => Confirmed
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[Larry muters]

** Changed in: exaile (Ubuntu)
Status: Confirmed => Fix Committed

** Changed in: exaile (Ubuntu)
Assignee: (unassigned) => Larry muters (lawrencemuters8)

** Changed in: gthumb (Ubuntu)
Assignee: (unassigned) => Larry muters (lawrencemuters8)

** Changed in: vlc (Ubuntu)
Assignee: (unassigned) => Larry muters (lawrencemuters8)

** Changed in: amarok (Ubuntu)
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[Jeremy Bicha]

** Changed in: exaile (Ubuntu)
Status: Fix Committed => Invalid
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